(;AP[GOWrite:2.3.28]FF[4]CA[ISO8859-1]GM[1]SZ[19]ST[2]RO[2]WR[7d]TM[3600]GN[Hsiang-Debarre-Redmond]RE[W+0.5 ]BT[France]DT[2010-05-26 ]PC[Hangzhou, China]C[WAGC 2010 Hangzhou, China Round 2, May 26 W\: Thomas Hsiang 7d (US) B\: Thomas Debarre 5d (France) Commentary by Michael Redmond 9P Transcribed by Chris Garlock I know both players\; Debarre was in Japan recently, I think, studying, though I don't know the details. Hsiang is a longtime friend of my wife and her sisters, so I know him well\; he's a strong amateur. When I saw him the night after this game, he was saying that he had a fairly bad case of jetlag.]EV[WAGC 2010]PM[2]PB[Thomas Debarre]US[Transcribed by Chris Garlock]PW[Thomas Hsiang]FG[259:]WT[US]OT[3x30 Byo-yomi ]BR[5d]KM[6.5]AN[Michael Redmond 9P]RU[Japanese] ;B[pd] ;W[dd] ;B[qp] ;W[dq] ;B[do] ;W[cm] ;B[cq] ;C[This is modern variation that's quite popular nowadays. Many amateurs will instinctively hane underneath but this is a mistake (see var)]W[gq] ( ;LB[er:A]C[The game move at A is not the newest variation. This is interesting, because Thomas Hsiang was asking me before the tournament to tell him about new moves, and maybe it's a good thing I didn't, because this move turned out better than the modern variation]B[dp] ( ;LB[dr:A][fo:B]C[B's game move at A is conservative and doesn't pressure W\; I'd play at B, which has a number of follow-ups (see variations)]W[er] ( ;B[dr] ;W[eq] ;B[bp] ;LB[dr:A]C[This development illustrates the problem with B's move at A\; W got to play on the left and can live on the right anytime.]W[cj] ;B[oq] ;W[qf] ;B[qi] ;W[nd] ;B[pf] ( ;LB[pg:A]C[Jumping in the corner at 20 is another innovation we see a lot in recent games. The previous normal joseki, of course, is the hane at A]W[qc] ;B[pc] ;LB[of:A]C[If B plays at A, the joseki reverts to the old joseki, which would be bad for B]W[pg] ( ;C[natural counter for B]B[qe] ;W[of] ;C[weak for W to allow B to connect underneath\; perfect shape for B (see var)]B[pe] ( ;W[rg] ;B[og] ;W[ph] ;B[nf] ;W[re] ;B[rd] ;C[this sequence is being played in a lot of pro games\; I'd prefer to play as B but some top players seem to think it's an even fight]W[pi] ;B[se] ( ;C[connecting is a slow, heavy move (see var)]W[rf] ;B[oe] ;W[ql] ;B[jc] ;W[kd] ;B[jd] ;W[kf] ;B[je] ;W[ke] ;B[fc] ;LB[pb:A][rf:B]C[All of W's play here is aimed at the hane at A, which will justify W having connected at B]W[kc] ;B[df] ;W[ec] ;B[fd] ;W[ee] ;B[ed] ;W[de] ;B[dc] ;W[cc] ;B[eb] ;LB[ob:A]C[I was suprised to see B start the ko immediately\; it would be feasible, instead, for B to protect the corner with the move at A, taking away W's eyes, and wait to start the ko later]W[db] ;B[cb] ;W[ec] ;B[pj] ;W[dc] ;B[qk] ;W[nh] ( ;LB[ob:A][jf:B]C[Again, I'd like to play at A for the reasons I just mentioned. B is worried about W's turn at B, but it's not urgent because W cannot enclose B]B[ig] ;W[pb] ;B[ob] ;W[qb] ;B[qd] ;W[nb] ;B[nc] ;W[oa] ;B[oc] ;W[mb] ;B[mc] ;W[kb] ;B[rb] ;W[rc] ;B[sc] ;W[ra] ;B[sb] ;W[lc] ;C[very interesting move\; B's trying to take away W's eyes and take advantage of W's liberty shortage to capture W's 5 stones in the corner. For W, this is a good opportunity to switch to attack the upper side instead (see variation)]B[la] ( ;W[lb] ;B[oh] ;W[oi] ;LB[ng:A]C[the W atari a A is vulgar but in this case I like it (see var)]B[ni] ( ;W[oj] ;B[mh] ;W[kh] ;B[pl] ;W[nj] ;B[mi] ;C[B has to keep in mind that his group is not 100% alive]W[ji] ( ;C[B needs to play this move to protect his upper side]B[gf] ( ;LB[mj:A]C[It might be better to play the sequence beginning with A to seal B in and force him to live, strengthening W. But the game variation is playable too.]W[fg] ;B[gg] ;W[fh] ;B[hi] ;W[mj] ;B[li] ;C[Jumping is the correct shape now for W]W[jk] ;B[kk] ;W[nl] ;B[kj] ;W[jj] ;B[km] ;C[key point to make eyes for W\; very important and good timing, too]W[ri] ;B[jl] ;W[hj] ;B[gi] ;W[il] ;B[im] ;W[hl] ( ;LB[rj:A]C[B is trying to take W's eyes, but W's follow-up is very good and W had no trouble living here. B would be better off starting at ko at A, since B has ko threats on the left side]B[qh] ;W[rj] ;B[qj] ;W[rk] ;B[qm] ;C[B would like to cut off the center stones, but W can swap them for the lower right corner (see var)]W[rl]TR[pi][oi][nj][oj][mj][nl][ph][pg] ( ;B[pm] ;C[So now not only has W lived, but he's gained a lot of territory]W[rh] ;B[iq] ;LB[jn:A]C[W shouldn't play this peep\; he's already got two eyes and is losing the peep at A]W[ll] ;B[kl] ;W[cr] ;B[br] ;W[ds] ;B[mn] ( ;LB[co:A]C[W missed a good chance to take away B's eyes at A]W[io] ;B[hm] ;W[ip] ;B[hq] ;W[gp] ;B[kq] ;W[ir] ;B[hr] ;W[gr] ;B[jq] ;W[gl] ;B[dm] ;W[dl] ;B[cn] ;W[em] ;B[bm] ;W[cl] ;B[fi] ;W[ei] ;B[ej] ;W[di] ;B[bl] ;C[W is aware that he has the lead and is playing solidly]W[bk] ;B[gm] ;W[fm] ;B[fk] ;W[jn] ;B[jm] ( ;LB[jb:A]C[very small, unneccessary move\; the variation beginning with A is much more valuable]W[fl] ;LB[lo:A]B[jb] ( ;LB[nk:A][lo:B]C[W has a potential back-up eye in the center at A, so this move actually loses 4 points locally. Playing at B is much better]W[rm] ;B[rn] ;LB[lo:A]C[Also loses points, compared to A. But does set up a potential attack on the center B stones, so if W follows it up correctly, it's feasible]W[nn] ;B[no] ;W[mm] ;C[B gained a lot here already]B[on] ( ;LB[nn:A]C[Taking this one stone is the mistake that make W's play at A a loss]W[fb] ;B[gb] ;W[ea] ;C[Now B has gained an enormous amount in the center\; the two marked moves netted B about 10 points profit, erasing W's lead and making the game very close. Subsequent moves omitted\; W ended up squeaking to a half-point win in the end.]B[ln]TR[rm][nn] ) ( ;W[ln] ;B[mo] ;W[kn] ( ;B[md] ;LB[nn:A]C[W gains the points back in this variation, making up for the loss of A]W[lp] ) ( ;B[lo] ;W[ne] ;B[lg] ;W[kg] ;B[md] ;W[me] ;B[mf] ;W[ng] ;B[mg] ;W[le] ;B[go] ;C[And B dies]W[fo] ) ) ) ( ;W[lo] ;B[ln] ;W[ko] ;B[mq] ;W[rn] ;B[rm] ;W[sm] ;B[sl] ;W[sk] ;B[ro] ;W[qn] ;B[pn] ;W[qo] ;B[po] ;W[sn] ;B[rp] ;C[Much better than the game]W[fb] ) ) ( ;W[jb] ;B[ib] ;W[hb] ;B[hc] ;W[ia] ;B[ic] ;W[dn] ;B[bn] ;W[lo] ;B[fl] ;W[ii] ) ( ;W[ib] ;B[jb] ;W[ja] ;B[ka] ) ) ( ;W[co] ) ) ( ;B[qg] ;W[rh] ;B[pk] ;W[pm] ;B[om] ;W[pn] ;B[ol] ;W[pp] ;B[on] ;W[oo] ;B[no] ;W[pq] ;B[mn] ;C[Good enough for W]W[or] ) ) ( ;B[rj] ;W[qh] ;B[si] ;W[qj] ;B[dj] ) ) ( ;W[mj] ;B[li] ;W[kk] ) ) ( ;B[qm] ;W[ne] ;B[lg] ;W[kg] ;B[mf] ;W[ng] ;B[mg] ;C[W can reduce B to one eye and B must run out into the center]W[md] ) ) ( ;W[ng] ;B[of] ;W[oj] ( ;B[mh] ;W[mg] ;B[lg] ;W[mf] ;B[lf] ;W[me] ;B[le] ;W[md] ;B[ld] ;C[Obviously a disaster for B]W[mi] ) ( ;B[mg] ( ;W[mh] ;B[lh] ;W[mi] ;C[Now it's bad for W]B[lg] ) ( ;W[kh] ( ;B[mi] ;C[now this is obviously good for W]W[pk] ) ( ;B[pl] ;W[mi] ( ;B[mh] ;W[mj] ;B[nh] ;W[ok] ;B[md] ;C[a bad var for B]W[pk] ) ( ;B[nj] ;W[ok] ;B[mh] ;C[Again, W gains on the right]W[pk] ) ) ) ) ) ) ( ;W[kh] ;B[na] ;W[ma] ;B[pa] ;W[qa] ;B[sd] ;W[nj] ;B[pl] ;W[fe] ;B[ge] ;W[gf] ;B[he] ;W[hc] ;B[jb] ;W[gd] ;B[gc] ;W[gb] ;B[fb] ;W[fa] ;B[hd] ;W[ea] ;B[gd] ;W[hb] ) ) ( ;B[ob] ;W[jf] ;B[if] ;W[ig] ;B[hf] ) ) ( ;W[jc] ;B[oe] ;W[ql] ) ) ( ;W[og] ;B[rg] ) ) ( ;B[of] ;W[qd] ) ) ( ;W[pg] ;B[of] ;W[qc] ;B[qe] ;W[pc] ;LB[nd:A][nc:B]C[this is considered good for B because W's stone at A would be better at B and the connection is weak]B[rf] ) ) ( ;B[fo] ( ;W[cj] ;B[hp] ;W[hq] ;B[ip] ;W[iq] ;B[jp] ;W[kq] ;LB[ch:A]C[B can be satisfied with this result, and be looking at a possible invasion around A]B[lo] ) ( ;W[jq] ;B[ip] ;W[iq] ;B[fq] ;W[fr] ;B[gp] ;W[hq] ;C[This is good for B, who has thickness to attack the stone on the left]B[ck] ) ( ;W[hp] ;B[dl] ;W[dm] ;B[em] ;W[cl] ;B[dk] ;W[ck] ;B[dj] ;W[ci] ;LB[kp:A]C[B gets thickness and is looking to play around A next]B[fl] ) ) ) ( ;W[dr] ;LB[ck:A][cr:B]C[A and B are miai]B[bo] ;W[cj] ;B[cr] ;W[jq] ) ) ( ;B[dr] ;W[cp] ( ;B[dp] ;W[eq] ;B[bp] ;W[cr] ;B[co] ;C[Sometimes I play this when I'm giving lessons, say with a 3-stone game.]W[br] ) ( ;B[eq] ;W[dp] ;C[better suji, but still cnsidered a disadvantage for B]B[ep] ;W[cr] ;B[bp] ;W[co] ;B[cn] ;W[bo] ;B[bn] ;W[bq] ;B[dn] ;W[fo] ;B[eo] ;W[fn] ;B[dm] ;C[It looks like B has done something fancy here but actually it's not a very good position\; the W corner is actually quite big and the B group is still under attack]W[dk] ) ) )